Reasonable /pricebuild for a computer

RainPilot

RainPilot

stinky bear
SeymourGore said:
I dunno, when you start to get that high FPS, does it really matter? Also, Seymour's running at 1920x1080, I think that's a respectable FPS for this resolution! Also, Gamethief19 is an intimidating character, probably bullied that 5770 into performing beyond its boundaries!

I dunno, everything I've read so far has been 'estimations' and whatnot. I'd be quite surprised (happily, mind you) if Bulldozer performs on par or exceeds with Intel's high end. I'm just hoping for a sizable performance upgrade over the Phenom IIs, that would make Seymour quite happy.
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The 6780 is technically BETTER than the 5770 though. Right? would this mobo be able to run dual 6780?
 
SeymourGore

SeymourGore

Flatulent Cherub
RainPilot said:
The 6780 is technically BETTER than the 5770 though. Right? would this mobo be able to run dual 6780?
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Yar, the 6870 is technically more powerful than the 5770.

Unfortunately Seymour's at work and unable to view imageshack images (can't remember if your mobo was crossfire compatible, I remember it had some sort of crossfire, but unsure if it was the 'integrated+addon' variety or the 'addon+addon' variety).

If you're interested in running Crossfire or SLI, you'll likely want a beefier PSU and perhaps a beefier motherboard.
 
RainPilot

RainPilot

stinky bear
SeymourGore said:
Yar, the 6870 is technically more powerful than the 5770.

Unfortunately Seymour's at work and unable to view imageshack images (can't remember if your mobo was crossfire compatible, I remember it had some sort of crossfire, but unsure if it was the 'integrated+addon' variety or the 'addon+addon' variety).

If you're interested in running Crossfire or SLI, you'll likely want a beefier PSU and perhaps a beefier motherboard.
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You're talking about your build right? That's the one I be talking bout.

Also, AMD HYBRID CROSSFIREX SUPPORT
Based on ATI CrossFireX multi-GPU technology, ATI Hybrid Graphics allows you to combine the performance of the integrated HD4250 GPU with an applicable ATI Radeon graphics card to bring enhanced gaming performance, productivity and power efficiency.

Btw: What shall I buy with my rebates? A new mouse? more ram?

The only thing is that the monitor you picked has a lot of reviews about dead pixels, lines, not working etc
 
SeymourGore

SeymourGore

Flatulent Cherub
RainPilot said:
You're talking about your build right? That's the one I be talking bout.

Also, AMD HYBRID CROSSFIREX SUPPORT
Based on ATI CrossFireX multi-GPU technology, ATI Hybrid Graphics allows you to combine the performance of the integrated HD4250 GPU with an applicable ATI Radeon graphics card to bring enhanced gaming performance, productivity and power efficiency.

Btw: What shall I buy with my rebates? A new mouse? more ram?
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Ah, thought we were talking about the motherboard in your build. The 880G only has that CrossFireX support, which is cool, but won't allow you to run 2x 6870s. Think the built-in HD4250 for everyday usage, but the chipset would switch to your add-on card (not sure which ones are the compatible GPUs) for performance tasks (ie: gaming).

As for your rebates, I suggest going for ergonomics (fancy mouse, keyboard, etc). You've got plenty of RAM in your build and you may as well splurge on a good keyboard + mouse.

RainPilot said:
The only thing is that the monitor you picked has a lot of reviews about dead pixels, lines, not working etc
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I've never used a ASUS monitor myself, though I do have a co-worker that swears by them. I use 24" Dell monitors and have a 20" Acer monitor (no problems with either of them).
 
Metreon

Metreon

Member
Personally, I'd wait for AMD's Bulldozer stuff to come out. AMD fusion for desktops is also pretty neat- the integrated Radeon can co-op with a Radeon 6XXX card. Again, I'd wait for Bulldozer before going that route unless you need it ASAP (since the GPU integration and TDP will only get better.)

Here's what I built, which was a little short of 1000 (if you count the later RAM upgrade and planned ATI video card update. All these parts will probably be cheaper since I built this a year ago.

AMD Phenom II 1090T BE (six-core)
MSI 890FXa-GD70 board
Cooler Master HAF 932 case
Seagate 1TB SATA hard drive (added to others I had.)
ASUS DVD burner, PATA
(Eventually) an ATI Radeon 6950 (better price/power ratio than 6970.) Currently packing the nVidia 9800GT from my previous build.
Acer 22" monitor
Initially 4GB of G-skill ddr3-1800 capable ram, currently 8GB of Patriot
Tuniq tower 920 extreme CPU cooler (got it secondhand- most people don't need anything that crazy)
900W Aprevia power supply

I built the machine for encoding and compiling, not gaming. You should probably go quad-core AMD.
Other advice:
890fx or 890gx chipset
ATI 6950
ASUS. Gigabyte, or MSI boards.

I'll stop here for now. I don't want to geek out too much here :p

But look into AMD's socket FM1 offerings.
 
Fissurez

Fissurez

Puzzlemaster
RainPilot said:
which build are you talking bout the one fujin put together or seymours? I'm considering seymours just because his is cheaper, has a better gpu, a freaking hexa-core, and a 1.5tb (even though idgaf about HDs)
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RainPilot said:
Just Saiyan, read the review, pretty every single thing in the bundle in around 3 eggs.
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seymour's. and a quad core is quite enough.

and fans vs liquid cooling? fans are much cheaper and you dont need LC.

you could also see if you can get an ati 6950 as well.
 
Metreon

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Member
I agree, no-one needs liquid cooling. It's expensive, risky, and only needed if you happen to be a mad overclocker. Just get a good case with a good fan system, good cooler and *properly* apply good t-paste (I use Arctic Silver V myself.) and you'll be fine. Having a case that mounts the power supply on the bottom is also good.
 
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Doom Of Neroflame

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just incase this helps....motherboards say if there xfire or dual sli compatible meaning you can run 2 cards but the gfx cards also need to be xfire or dual sli but also the motherboard will say one or the other so if its xfire you can only use 2 radeons visa verca with nvidia...and only certain gfx cards will be able to do it i got HD5670 and its xfire compatible think next one up isnt and i get 350fps..and its lower spec than whats been suggested
 
SeymourGore

SeymourGore

Flatulent Cherub
Alright, had some free time so I went back to the drawing board and picked out some components for another build option. This one is slightly more expensive, I decided not to include the keyboard + mouse (you can pick them out using MIR, and choose something that's comfortable for your small hands). Beefed up the motherboard to a 890FX series chipset and selected a Corsair 650 Watt PSU (this way you'll have enough power to crossfire the 6870 if you so wish). Downgraded to a Phenom II X4 965, you'll be losing two cores, but this is still a decent CPU for gaming (and this chipset allows you to upgrade to Bulldozer when it's released). Penny pinched on the CPU to allow a higher quality motherboard to be chosen (which is a crazy deal at $109.99, not sure how long that sale will go on for). Hopefully I didn't forget any components here, I was in a bit of a rush.

MSI 890FX-A-GD65 $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130565R

Corsair 650 $94.99 - $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...rs_StoreTopSeller-_-17-139-005_2_TS-_-1_32___

Phenom II X4 965 $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

G.Skill Ripjaw 8GB DDR3 $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

WD 500 GB HDD $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

Acer G245HQAbd 23.6" LCD Monitor + Radeon 6870 $334.98 - $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.675378

DVD Burner $18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Asgard PC Case $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815005

$838.91 - $45 MIR: $793.91
 
RainPilot

RainPilot

stinky bear
DKnight556 said:
AMD claims to be shipping small quantities at the moment but the full launch is expected in Q3
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Yeah. I want my computer before summer ends so I can actually use it because when school comes around, I'll be dreaded with homework and studying.
 
Fissurez

Fissurez

Puzzlemaster
RainPilot said:
I don't need a 23.6 inch monitor you crazy fool! 22' is enough!

The case is crappy, like 3 eggs. 8gbs is too much RAM. Y U SO BAD
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the fact that the monitor is bundled with a 6870 should be the reason you get the 23.6" over a 22"

Case doesn't change performance as much as getting better components, and anyway its probably going to sit under your desk anyway, although durability may be a factor to consider.
(the case doesn't look too bad)

8GB ram isn't *too* much, but it will definitely do you fine and you should not need to upgrade it from there. 4GB is fast becoming standard for desktops, if it hasn't already, and 6GB ram is less common than 8GB.

i would go for 8GB RAM if you want to play the top games really well.
 
Metreon

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Member
WOOHOO- Seymour nominated a version of my board! (the main difference is one LAN port.) I feel special. :D

I got mine open-box for 150.

Dozer's supposed to be out by the end of this year, but AMD will try to undercut Intel's prices for sure, so I doubt they'll be too pricey.

Here's what I would go for for a conventional build:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
Bottom-mount power supply, good fans and airflow, neat price and 5-star average of 800 peeps.

Board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157258
Best FM1 board on the site.

CPU/GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942
The GPU is built into this. Radeon. My buddy has the laptop version of this APU and can play X3: TC on max graphics. Not an easy feat. Plus, it supports something called asymetric Crossfire where it will pair up with an AMD graphics card (has to be 6xxx series.)

RAM: See Seymour's post

DVD: See Seymour's post

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817144006
I like Thortech- not a terrible price for a modular specced like that, and my Brit buddy swears by them.

Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236096
Total: $788.92 (though I am no math whiz, just to warn you :p)

This'll give you a pretty nice, reasonably powered yet expandable rig. I'd also advise getting a better CPU cooler, but that's just me being silly.



 
SeymourGore

SeymourGore

Flatulent Cherub
Ha, personally, I think that Asgard case is really ugly too. I was nominating it due to its low price of $29.99.
 
SeymourGore

SeymourGore

Flatulent Cherub
RainPilot said:
What do you think of Floks' build? The CPU has hyperthreading so that's liek 8 cores.
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It looks good! My only change would be to replace that motherboard with the MSI 890FX for $109.99 that was in the build I posted earlier. I think the $109.99 might be a typo or a really short term deal, I'd recommend picking it up as soon as you can. With that said, the 880G in Floks' build is likely enough mobo to meet your needs, it may not have x16/x16 crossfire, but I'm pretty sure the difference is negligible.

Also, I'm not sure if I'm just not seeing it or not, but is there a PSU in this build? If not, you'll need to add that to the base price.

BTW, when is your date with Fujin? Hurry it up and share photos of your new machine!
 
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