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Buhlitz

Member
new properties of the sniper, and current values but with the charge to fire mechanic as well.

my dream anyway.
 

moronval

Private Tester
Sniper was never worth playing against in pugs. Did the 9 months of downtime make everyone forget it was on the list of *chocolate cookies* not to use in pugs? Right alongside old RLS and hotswapping.

@kryst, remember when you and outlawl were the only two worth while snipers in the pug community? You even admitted on vent back then that just one of you alone could shut down an entire team's offense coming in. Even if the sniper back then is different from the one now, it's still on par.
 

Kryst

Private Tester
Sniper was never worth playing against in pugs. Did the 9 months of downtime make everyone forget it was on the list of *chocolate cookies* not to use in pugs? Right alongside old RLS and hotswapping.

@kryst, remember when you and outlawl were the only two worth while snipers in the pug community? You even admitted on vent back then that just one of you alone could shut down an entire team's offense coming in. Even if the sniper back then is different from the one now, it's still on par.


Yes I recall saying that... But the sniper is even more nerfed now. Im not saying for anyone to not use it, if more people were effective with it, it would balance out the gameplay. One sniper can help control the battlefield, but thats not to say that a sniper can't be controlled.

If people would come up with new strats/positions/playstyles maybe it wouldnt make sniper seem so OP.

The old old sniper was banned from pugs, not the one that is currently in play.

Good people can change the game..

A sniper is no different then Mabels bowl party LO, pulling 2 or 3 people away from base to hunt him.

Or a good body blocking, MAing chaser/LD

Or APC's clutch plays of always being at the right place at right time being an efficient dueler.

Or great cappers who can talk to their LO and control the other teams defense.

People can control snipers, I feel like I understand the weakness of it. Why cant it be exploited?

I wouldnt want sniper removed, but nerfed back to what it used to be, it is a bit OP


Nerf it how it use to be?

In no way was it nerfed before it is now, it has gone gradually downhill ever since the laser beam of death and unlimited ammo.
 

moronval

Private Tester
I'd take the old RLS over snipers any day of the week. Those were manageable to play against at least.
 

Buhlitz

Member
I've played with and against good snipers , and I find the only time they are completely OP is when you have no LO targeting them or they are in OR hitting you like twice before you even drop onto your approach.
 

Daphinicus

Private Tester
As LO, my first targets are snipers. As LD, if I see a sniper midfield, he's my target. I think Kryst is on the money; snipers can seem "overpowered" because people aren't properly dealing with them.
 

Anti_Envy

Private Tester
Yes I recall saying that... But the sniper is even more nerfed now. Im not saying for anyone to not use it, if more people were effective with it, it would balance out the gameplay. One sniper can help control the battlefield, but thats not to say that a sniper can't be controlled.

If people would come up with new strats/positions/playstyles maybe it wouldnt make sniper seem so OP.

The old old sniper was banned from pugs, not the one that is currently in play.

Good people can change the game..

A sniper is no different then Mabels bowl party LO, pulling 2 or 3 people away from base to hunt him.

Or a good body blocking, MAing chaser/LD

Or APC's clutch plays of always being at the right place at right time being an efficient dueler.

Or great cappers who can talk to their LO and control the other teams defense.

People can control snipers, I feel like I understand the weakness of it. Why cant it be exploited?




Nerf it how it use to be?

In no way was it nerfed before it is now, it has gone gradually downhill ever since the laser beam of death and unlimited ammo.

Don't forget about the clutch flag passes dude... O.O ^^^^^^^^^^^
 

phanakapan

Private Tester
Not to derail the thread even more (nice vids btw val), but my only issue with the sniper is the mechanic. I have been trying out Hornet recently and snipe chasing to freshen things up. Even with my fairly consistent 15-25 fps and 68 ping, I sometimes feel like it's easy mode being able to point click and kill anyone under 50% whenever they peak on an arc, but there is the trade off of not having a CG for those last second low health kills. As for Kryst's snipe bowl party, I have pugged against him and while annoying a few times during a map, I much prefer it to Mabel's bowl party, and neither is really all that annoying if you make any kind of attempt to avoid it. Even pugs with multiple snipers (ucan/discord/etc) while annoying, having to slow down routes to strafe and dodge a bit more, are still a lot easier than having to dodge more BBs and instant overdrives, and as soon as you're out of range, it's another person not in the fight.
 

moronval

Private Tester
updated; game 22 uploaded. I hope you girls like HD because I accidentally 1440x900. Also, mabelgasm at 19:15
 
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