@Blackhand: I DO downjet. A lot. Even more when I have three or four blue beams coming at me one after another. The problem is that it doesn't bloody matter. I wouldn't have made a thread about this if the problem could be surmounted by holding (or tapping) the shift key, thanks. And I realize...

Read the post first >_< . I didn't say sniper is OP'd. I said there are too many people using it. Just in case it was missed by the tl;dr crowd: SNIPER IS NOT OP'D, THERE ARE TOO MANY SNIPERS

I think I liked the SB more when it had 35 shots. Given its higher RoF, it makes sense for it to have proportionately more ammo... amiright?

Alright, I'm officially sick of this *chocolate cookies*. Six snipers to a team is way too many. inb4 "adapt," when all six snipers are some of the best in the community, there is no adapting. inb4 "get better," lawl, why didn't I think of that? This has been one of the biggest problems with PUBs since L:O...

Which is why your argument is so original! It's been said for years! Honestly, did you READ the thread? Let me sum up, since I'm pretty sure you didn't get passed "O-sniping" in the title: We've defined o-sniping as any sniping tactics which are offensive, including hitting the enemy D and...

Thanks for that wonderfully thought-out, thorough, and original argument.

I don't see how what I said suggests SB is bad... I like the SB precisely because it fits nicely between the RL and the SR. Having faster projectile speed makes up-close MAs a little easier, but the fact that it sucks for ground pounding balances this. This weapon is the dueler's dream come...

(Just got on for the first time since the updates started; I also did not read most of this thread since it sounded like another sniper bitch fight) I like the SB. I feel that it suits my play style better, and definitely love that it has 35 shots in OR. If RL is a butter knife and SR is a...

I like this idea. I typically get ~65 ms to SOCAL (and <40 to San Francisco), but the chicago servers all ping at 97+. That's not horrible, I s'pose... but it'd be nice to occasionally get the home field advantage for a change.

I like that map. It'd be great for big CTF games. Only the hills behind the bases had any resemblance to Stygian, imo.

I could go for 'u-sniping.' Hell, we could even generalize 'u-' as a community prefix for anything useless, but that's up to the processes of sociolinguistic evolution.

This is from another thread: I like that Skepsis called it "Useless O sniping." Take off the 'sniping' at the end, and this might be a good term to replace "O sniping" as it also encompasses the idiot LO who ignores the flag when it's dropped (*coughmecough* :oops: getting better, though). The...

If my team proves brick dumb, I usually start picking fights with the enemy D without bothering for the flag. I get my ass kicked a lot, but oh well. It's more interesting than hitting c-d-c over and over again to get some help holding the flag at home or c-d-a to get the overabundant defense to...

I'll be sure to specify "in my experience" next time so I don't give you carpal tunnel ;) . Anyway, as for terrain changes, I would hope for only minor tweaks to the middle. VERY minor. I feel that SW just needs a way for Beta guys to get out of their base a little faster. That will eliminate...

Oh, god, I wish I'd been in that game :( .

Well, I just like having the different pace. On Stygian, you have more or less the same dynamic as any other map, only faster because the hills are a lot more severe. It's friggen fun, but still essentially more of the same (until you get into the creepy tunnels :D ). Sleepwalker forces everyone...

I like Sleepwalker. It breaks up the usual beat, which is nice. That said, there does need to be some mechanism by which people can get out of those bases faster than 42 km/h (or m/s or whatever). Having things flat keeps the fights compact and really forces you to manage your energy or die. God...

From a thread in GD about sniping. Wrote this bout a half hour ago. Agree, disagree?

A lot of people have been complaining about the SR making Sleepwalker into hell. Every time I've played SW so far has been from Beta side, so keep that in mind so you don't get lost (geographically). This has worked okay for me: keeping low and behind the towers as much as possible will prolong...

All fine in theory. What happens when the LO or grabber is engaged in a fight and has to take his eyes off the carrier? inb4 grabbers shouldn't get into fights: *chocolate cookies* happens and people are dicks, hence "if they're doing their job" falls apart in practice at least occasionally. Having a health...