ocarina_boy
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Bullying builds character. Quit crying, put you're big girl pants on and move along.
I concur.
Bullying builds character. Quit crying, put you're big girl pants on and move along.
Great to see that some people are cold and have no soul. :O
I believe learning how to defend yourself is a great thing... And honestly... I'm glad to see the bigger kid rock bottoming that scrawny clown (even though I believe he should have finished with a "people's elbow".. *sigh*) But... I'm against bullying. Too many death's from it either by accident or suicide... So, I support anyway to make bullying a less common event in schools.
...But... this is also from a kid who... when I got bullied in 7th grade... my dad who was in the military at that time taught me how to put someone in an arm lock, disable them... push them into a wall and told me to repeat the phrase "Don't f*** with me." ...... oh dad....
A school massacre is in no way related to bullying. I'd relate it to the ridiculously high teenage suicide rates and generally weird teenage culture (when compared to other countries in EU. Man when I came here I was surprised....)o/
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I find it ridiculous that it took two school massacres here in Finland (yes, it does happen here too) to make people realize "Gee, maybe we oughta do something about bullying at school".
word...suicide is no one's fault but the person's, and that's all it will ever beIf you'r willing to give up you're own life over someone who spends their life picking on others then you have wasted you're own existance and for what.......... absolutely nothing.
word...suicide is no one's fault but the person's, and that's all it will ever be
Bottom line bullying will never stop, putting this in you're "status" on facebook won't stop some idiot from picking on someone who is smaller or smarter then they are. Deaths from bullying, well sorry it happened but again man up. If you'r willing to give up you're own life over someone who spends their life picking on others then you have wasted you're own existance and for what.......... absolutely nothing.
If the kid isn't smart enough to talk to a teacher or parent/transfer schools/get professional help then its his fault imo. You shouldn't have to think that suicide is the only way away to escape a bully.True, but it is the bullies fault if the person felt that they had no other choice, no other way out. That is the sad thing about bullying.
A school massacre is in no way related to bullying. I'd relate it to the ridiculously high teenage suicide rates and generally weird teenage culture (when compared to other countries in EU. Man when I came here I was surprised....)
If the kid isn't smart enough to talk to a teacher or parent/transfer schools/get professional help then its his fault imo. You shouldn't have to think that suicide is the only way away to escape a bully.
1. As I mentioned before, teachers rarely give a *chocolate cookies* since it's "not their job". Running to teacher and telling them only angers the bullies and makes it worse.
2. Every school has bullies.. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
3. Kids/teenagers don't want to admit they want psychiatric treatment to alleviate their pain. Hell, it's the bullies that should be send to professional help! They are the ones who need it!
4. Suicide won't solve anything, true, but things should never elevate to school massacre situation either. Fact that these things have occured means some people have *danced* up royally and nobody has offered a helping hand to true victim... no, they always look easy scapegoats (namely video games and heavy music) and leave it at that.
If the kid isn't smart enough to talk to a teacher or parent/transfer schools/get professional help then its his fault imo. You shouldn't have to think that suicide is the only way away to escape a bully.
word...suicide is no one's fault but the person's, and that's all it will ever be
Long post...
yes i realize that, i'm 20 years old, not 10....and way to assume that i have not experienced this, because i have to be blunt and straightforward and totally honest.........and did his parents kill him? no. he killed himself. therefore he's the one at fault. there is no grey area with suicide. im not saying things dont contribute to weighing down a person's mind and feelings i'm talking about the actual physical killing
It's easy to say things like that from the outside looking in and when you've not experienced it yourselves.
Well said. Though you might not know what exactly a catalyst is. Simply speaking it's something that speeds things up; it's not the reason things happen, nor it in any way triggers things. Bullying just might be one of the driving factors behind a school massacre but these things don't necessarily need to be linked together. So don't use the massacre example ;]If these scars aren't catalyst for school massacre or criminal activities that might threaten human lives I don't know what is.
We had a suicide at our school as well, an overweight student with dental problems (his teeth were messed up, overlapping and pointing in different directions) who was really timid. Most of the population, save a select few, picked on him for these reasons. He got pushed around and made fun of on a daily basis relentlessly and, iirc, his parents were neglectful. How do you transfer schools when your parents don't care? He did seek help from the school counselor and whoever else he could within the school but the school cannot practically punish every student who contributed to the bullying (most of the school, as I mentioned before). Hopelessness is an extremely powerful affliction. Noone stood up for him because he only had a few friends and they were bullied also.
Faulting the person completely for what they do is naive, mainly because you are not taking in to consideration other variables such as neglectful and/or abusive parents. Schools need to be a lot more strict and proactive with bullying in and out of school, but there isn't much they can do if the persons parents are dolts. Many people lack the willpower and/or means to help themselves and you can attribute that to whatever you want but the problem remains and the solution is to help them, not make calloused comments about the inability of a person to help themselves. If you think people who cannot help themselves deserve to die or suffer whatever they may, that's fine, but modern society supports the contrary and it would probably be in your best interest to not waste your time with such subjects.
yes i realize that, i'm 20 years old, not 10....
and way to assume that i have not experienced this, because i have to be blunt and straightforward and totally honest.........
and did his parents kill him? no. he killed himself. therefore he's the one at fault. there is no grey area with suicide. im not saying things dont contribute to weighing down a person's mind and feelings i'm talking about the actual physical killing
p.s.- your response is a great example of my quote that is now in Outlawl's signature
However a lot of people do need to stand up for themselves. Otherwise they will learn to be dependent on others and will consequently suffer later on in their (near-adult) lives.
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Just sayin!!
Well said. Though you might not know what exactly a catalyst is. Simply speaking it's something that speeds things up; it's not the reason things happen, nor it in any way triggers things. Bullying just might be one of the driving factors behind a school massacre but these things don't necessarily need to be linked together. So don't use the massacre example ;]
LOL nope I don't....if its a generalization, don't quote people, when you quote you are pulling out specifics ....you can make the "relevance and aim" of your posts obvious (and not confusing) without quoting people by just explaining yourself well....after all, isn't that what everyone else is doing by posting without a quote?have you ever considered that you're the one that blows things out of proportion? It was a generalization, even though I quoted you to make the relevance and aim of my post obvious. If I had said that and not quoted anyone the beginning would have been kind of confusing.