Increase ammo for the rocket launcher in the Chaser class

[Royalty]

The Outrider is the typical choice for cappers and chasers. Cappers may not need much ammo, but chasers on the other hand do. Chasers typically stay at the base, trying to prevent cappers form grabbing the flag. When cappers do grab the flag, chasers are usually low on ammo, due to fending off other cappers. I think that the Chaser class should have more ammo.

I don't know whether or not others would think of this as OP. But think about it. The chaser only has one weapon that does a considerable amount of damage- the rocket launcher. If you run out of ammo whilst your chasing what are you going to kill the capper with? A chaingun doesn't do too much damage. It's more of a last resort weapon.

Now back to being OP. I am going to list the advantages and the disadvantages of both the Outrider and Raider:

Outrider:
Adv:Faster
Dis: Low Health
Dis: Low ammo
Dis: Can only hold two weapons

Raider:
Adv: More Health
Adv: More ammo (with RLII & three weapons)
Adv: More weapons
Dis: Slower

The Outrider has 1 Advantage and 3 Disadvantages
The Raider has 3 Advantages and 1 Disadvantage

And I know people who think the Outrider should be removed, due to how it is faster than the Raider!!!!

My point is- more ammo on the Outrider, especially the Chaser class, would balance the two classes out. Advantage and Disadvantage wise.

What do you think?

 

[Libra]

I only use the outrider class specifically the chaser if it could have more ammo on the rockets it would be perfect

 

[A2]

And I know people who think the Outrider should be removed, due to how it is faster than the Raider!!!!

Really?

 

[Armageddon]

No not really. Then again Euros seem to favor Raider. I don't know.

 

[WildFire]

Protip, stop suggesting things that aren't going to happen! If you have low ammo often, you're obviously not going to the ammo box enough/wasting your shots. Ammo conservation is a skill to learn, complaining about something that you have problems with does not mean everyone else does! Most of the best Eu chasers use the raider to chase nowadays (Riptack, Sawdust, Fox), though the outrider is a perfectly good choice to go for - but owait! The raider still has the same amount of rocket ammo as the outrider, unless playing as the rocketeer which most don't as they use the grenades for ground-pounding cappers.

 

[Royalty]

Really?

Yep. In fact someone (who I wont name) actually made a thread about removing it.

 

[WildFire]

Yep. In fact someone (who I wont name) actually made a thread about removing it.

They are blatantly an idiot then.

 

[Royalty]

I totally agree. I only play outrider.

 

[Xtreme]

Apart from the outrider class being complete bullshit,

The Outrider is the typical choice for cappers and chasers. Cappers may not need much ammo, but chasers on the other hand do. Chasers typically stay at the base, trying to prevent cappers form grabbing the flag. When cappers do grab the flag, chasers are usually low on ammo, due to fending off other cappers. I think that the Chaser class should have more ammo.

I suggest you re-read what you've written and think hard about whether or not this is truly the case. Do all chasers use the outrider class? Is rocket spamming really what the chaser does? Also, does it not occur to you that ammoboxes exist for a reason?

 

[Royalty]

Apart from the outrider class being complete bullshit

Take that back. Everyone loves the Outrider. You must have problems

I suggest you re-read what you've written and think hard about whether or not this is truly the case. Do all chasers use the outrider class? Is rocket spamming really what the chaser does? Also, does it not occur to you that ammoboxes exist for a reason?

Yes the outrider doesn't rocket spam. But it only uses the chaingun whilst flag carriers are in the air.
What if you are low on ammo, about to refill, but a capper comes out of nowhere and grabs the flag. You can either:
1. Chase the cappers, whilst low on ammo, therefore having a less likely chance of killing the capper before he grabs the flag.
2. Jet to the ammo box, wasting time, whilst the capper already had a 5 second advantage. He is basically already home.

 

[Immanent]

Apart from the outrider class being complete bullshit,
I suggest you re-read what you've written and think hard about whether or not this is truly the case. Do all chasers use the outrider class? Is rocket spamming really what the chaser does? Also, does it not occur to you that ammoboxes exist for a reason?

First of all, can you ever reply to somebody's post without ever mentioning a swear word? Really hope that a Moderator removes your posting rights...
A friend of mine mentioned that a LOT of american's play using Outrider, and I really doubt that you have played in any other server than EU.

 

[radiofriendly]

Outrider:
Adv:Faster
Dis: Low Health
Dis: Low ammo
Dis: Can only hold two weapons

Raider:
Adv: More Health
Adv: More ammo (with RLII & three weapons)
Adv: More weapons
Dis: Slower

The Outrider has 1 Advantage and 3 Disadvantages
The Raider has 3 Advantages and 1 Disadvantage

Germany:
+beer
-hitler
-weird language
-nothing going on

Somalia:
+weather
+boat trips
+no laws
-crime

Germany has 1 advantage and 3 disadvantages
Somalia has 3 advantages and 1 disadvantage

Therefore Somalia is a better place to live.

In other words, you can't prove anything with summing up an arbitrary number of (dis)advantages. Don't be clouded by politicians etc who do the same: this is a prime example of a logical fallacy.

Also, on topic: the chaingun is not a last resort weapon, and you should never spam your rockets. It seems you need to play a bit more before coming to conclusions...

 

[Flamesstater]

I don't see why he isn't allowed to express his opinion on a subject whilst using vulgar words. Swearing is a part of society. You can either accept the fact or try and be blatantly ignorant to it's presence.

P.S Bullshit isn't even a *dancing* bad word to use.

Your Angry Aussie!

 

[radiofriendly]

So my point is proven: Somalia is a better place to live and your argument is a complete logical failure

 

[Gheist]

[...] To be fair it should of been:
[stupidity goes here]

Congratulations, you've just shot your own argument in the kneecaps, then took out a sledgehammer and smashed it into its groin, followed by setting it on fire while it's still incapacitated.

It's fine to advocate more ammo on ORs, but please, don't make up "reasons" for your personal decision. It only makes you lose credibility, and hurts your cause.

 

[Mahidhar]

OK, let me tell you this, Outrider is in no way underpowered compared to Raider. If you seriously think that is not true, then make a different thread about it. This is the thread about ammo sufficiency for Outrider's Chaser class, so let's not deviate. Royalty, try to be clear in what you want to discuss about. Otherwise, the community will seem like hungry wolves tearing on your flesh(I assume, it already does).

 

[DeadGuy]

Ammo conservation is an important part of Legions and games in general. Allowing people to spam their weapons freely doesn't improve things and players tend to get lazy aim. If you run low you should visit an ammo station, and OR chasers are supposed to kill the enemy carrier quickly. OR can return the flag midair more efficiently with his superior air movement, but raider can bunk down more in the enemy base and wait for support.

 

[DKnight556]

1. Use the outrider class with nades and rockets
2.A lot of ammo stations are on each map, so running out of ammo is not really a problem
3. Outrider can dodge quickly and has more thrust = less of a chance of MAs and more chance to ground pound your opponent( yes it is not a good skill to use but still an effective one)

 

[Royalty]

Should I delete that post? It has generated a LOT of hate...

 

[Gheist]

Should I delete that post? [...]

You should learn from it.