Moved the skill curve discussion to a separate thread. Sorry it hijacked this one, folks!

Before I say anything else, let me say this: I am not the Legions gameplay designer. That's DeadGuy. I give my thoughts, and the examples I use (like deployable turrets, which I should point out are not under development or even something we have implementation plans for) are designed to provide...

Changing the game is good. We're always working to change the game, for the better. For instance, we just added grenades. We're working on new maps. We're going to add base assets. We're going to introduce new weapons. These are all changes. And they are all good. What we AREN'T going to do is...

You've already learned the game, you're already over the curve; a reduced skill curve wouldn't apply to you anyway. You're playing each other over and over because new blood isn't coming into the game, and those that DO come, for the most part, get scared off. Also, if you're bored to tears...

I'm not sure if that's a real issue, or if that's simply perceived because we've all played Niv and Moon so many times. It's easy to go, "Niv, AGAIN?" whenever it comes up, even if it's coming up just as often as other maps. But that aside, the problem with not having them in the rotation is...

It's not worth spending our time revamping old maps, Red; building new bases and reworking the terrain to fit those bases takes a TON of effort, and if we're going to do that, we might as well just make new maps that aren't just balanced for nades, but for everything else we're planning on as...

You're right; this isn't COD. It is, however, in the community's best interest to reduce the skill curve; if we don't, you guys will be playing yourselves over and over and over, get bored to tears, and either quit, or mod the game to hell in an attempt to make it fresh again. Games stay...

Chi-Ro was talking, specifically, about the skill curve -- the time and effort it takes to go from immobile newblood to MAing, routing assassin. The need for a gentler skill curve has been mentioned numerous times on this forum. Making the game easier to get into doesn't equate to making the...

Nod.

T... A... S... T... Y... Tasty... DANCE! We can dance if we want to, we can taste those meals of miiiine.... /offtopic

As is, it might not be a great weapon idea, but pieces of it have promise. We've been doing all sorts of weapons testing, and a finesse weapon that abandons splash for easier (if less effective) MAs has been under scrutiny for some time. Might scratch this particular itch.

Dude, you just HATE splash, don't you? =) It would be tremendously foolish to base map design around one thing, but in general, larger maps are more paced, and would achieve what you're talking about here. I agree that if nades become a problem, reducing the amount makes a lot of sense --...

Don't feel bad; GReap's just being grumpy. =)

The BYOC hall only got announced on the PA forums and filled up ridiculously fast, so my buddies and I missed out on it. No matter; I'll still be there, Utilikilt and all. You'll very likely find me in line with my sister, waiting to enter every single Gabe & Tycho panel we can. =)

Mabe just shot up the speed of the RL for a few minutes for giggles. It created a near-hitscan projectile weapon with all the power of the RL. Even if the splash were removed, MAs were still unbelievably simple. Anything that moves that fast needs to either have a hugely long reload time (e.g...

Uploaded a new Live.zip and modified the link. Let me know if it doesn't work, folks!

I've been lobbying for some form of trajectory modifier for some time.

Rockey plays Legions with akimbo mouses; one for looking around, the other for movement!

I always love reading new weapon ideas, but I also think to myself: what's the PURPOSE of the weapon? What void is it meant to fill? What new gameplay opportunities would be opened by introducing this weapon into the game? I don't like to call weapon ideas bad, because I'm of the opinion no...

Remember, this is just one step in a long plan of gameplay additions and modifications. =)