Srs Question: Why are Macs bad?

Gheist

King of all Goblins
[...] get a PC and spend more money on virus protection. [...]
I really don't want to incite a Mac vs. PC discussion, but I had to comment on this. I'm running totally free AntiVir solutions for ages (currently http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus in combination with http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispyware.html and http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free) and never had any problems (that could have been prevented by AntiVir software). If you know what you're doing, and if you know how to use the webs responsibly, you don't have to spend a penny for effective security.

I just think that Macs are too expensive for hackers to be bothered to buy one just to waste their time and find/create viruses.

Meaning: Not worth it.
While the money aspect is true, the rest isn't. Malware/Spam/Scam/etc. needs lots of recipients to become profitable. As the PC market is larger, the profits are larger. Money definitely is a factor, the price of the system or OS though has nothing to with it.
 

57thRomance

Member

Wait... just wait. Are you saying that on windows people cannot create applications....?

5...4....3....2...1.... EDIT EDIT EDIT
:rolleyes: You silly bumm...
I really don't want to incite a Mac vs. PC discussion, but I had to comment on this. I'm running totally free AntiVir solutions for ages (currently http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus in combination with http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispyware.html andhttp://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free) and never had any problems (that could have been prevented by AntiVir software). If you know what you're doing, and if you know how to use the webs responsibly, you don't have to spend a penny for effective security.
Well slap a dress on me and call me Sally; I like the way you shop :)
 

Metreon

Member
Ahh.... the eternal question.

Personally, I USED to be a huge apple fan. I still have my Pismo. However, that ceased to be when the fateful decision was made in 2006 to switch to Intel x86 CPUs. The PowerPC CPUs they had were their main selling point for me- so much better than x86 (despite the slower upgrade cycle.) Their main downfall was NOT being binary-compatible with x86, but the CPU was just an overall better design.
(There is a rumor that Apple may switch to ARM A15, which I would quite like.) Only last year have Intel Macs beat out the best Power Mac G5 made in terms of raw power.

The OS is decent, but I get the same benefits from Linux, without the consumerization (aka "dumbing down.")

I will admit Macs are great for the creative crowd, because that was the crowd that they were geared toward until recently. However, the Jobs seems to want to sell more *chocolate cookies* to fanbois (to use The Register's term) than those creative professionals who are the reason Apple still exists.

Anyway, here's a few Tumblr posts I wrote on the subject (no epic rant today, as I already did it!)
http://thebastardwizard.tumblr.com/post/4855069992/on-pcs-macs-and-nomenclature-gaffes
http://thebastardwizard.tumblr.com/post/4875109779/on-pcs-macs-and-nomenclature-gaffes-part-ii
http://thebastardwizard.tumblr.com/post/4887810297/on-pcs-macs-and-nomenclature-gaffes-part-iii

And here's me trying REAL hard not to flame an anon fanboi fool.
http://thebastardwizard.tumblr.com/...e-better-qualitey-and-have-different-holes-to

Cheers!
 

Metreon

Member
On my sole two machines with windows partitions I run Comodo and Microsoft Security essentials. Both free, not too baggy, and effective.
 

WildFire

Warrior of Linux
To get back to the original topic, here's a quote from bash.org:

Bash.org said:
< robT> Name ONE thing that your windows comp can do that my MAC cant
< bawss> Right click.
 

Fissurez

Puzzlemaster
To get back to the original topic, here's a quote from bash.org:

*right clicks*

NEXT PLEASE.

and tbh considering i use both mac & PC i can actually comment on this :D
- macs are better when using a trackpad.
- macs looks nicer and are usually built better (IMO)
-other shizzle

- PCs are Cheaper, and can be customised hardware wise to a much bigger degree
- games.
-other shizzle

frankly i use my mac to browse the internet and do workie things, and my PC to play games (but am not against switching it about)
tbh the statement "macs are bad" is as stupid as saying "Macs don't get Viruses", and "I don't like macs because i don't like apple / Steve Jobs is a C*ck" to which i reply with this guy.

steve-ballmer.jpg
 

Arch

Legions Developer
It's easier to run Windows on a Mac than it is to Hackintosh a PC to run Mac OS on it. Jus' sayin'.

To get back to the original topic, here's a quote from bash.org:
Not true. If you have a mouse you can turn it on.
 

Gheist

King of all Goblins
ITS CALLED A JOKE IF YOU'VE EVER VISITED BASH.
The joke expert, delivering once again.

Stereotypical Mac hating is as stupid as "fanboyism" by the way. As soon as this thread turns into the usual bullshit, it's getting nuked into oblivion. Keep it intelligent guys.
 

Metreon

Member
I don't hate Macs. I'm a Linux man primarily. Macs do however have a lot of pros attributed to them that are either misunderstood or the result of happenstance.

Physically, a Mac IS a PC. Intel x86 platform means IBM-PC descendant, that means PC. Macs ceased being their own hardware category when they switched to Intel. (The "nomencalture gaffe, as it were.")

The operating system is nice, but it's basically lobotomized BSD. It IS a little harder to infect an OS X box than it is to infect a Windows box (mostly on account of it being a true multiuser OS. However, the main reason Macs have a lower infection rate is simply that their market share is too small for most cybercrooks to burn develpment time on. If you were a Russian hackscammer, would you prioritize the 90% of the world that's an easy target or the 9ish percent that's harder? Macs are also hella harder to fix if they do get a virus (and the frequency of that has skyrocketed in the past few months.)

I have no love for Windows either. Its market share, again, is its downfall. Not only did it prevent M$ from making Windows truly multiuser (because that would break compatibility with all sorts of legacy *chocolate cookies*) or giving it a fixed and regualted directory system, it's also made it the ripe target for the 'pickins. Every other Winows version sucks, and the versions opposite them just fix fails.

Yes, the physical build quality of Mac-branded PCs is better than most PCs (though they are NOTHING compared to what they used to be- PPC all the way!) Get a PC in the same price range and you're likely to get similar if not better build quality. My ThinkPad T510 can lay the smackdown on Macbook build quality. Plus all of the Jobs's restrictions are not helping matters.
 

Arch

Legions Developer
I don't hate Macs. I'm a Linux man primarily.
If Linux could run exe files w/o an Emulator I wouldn't think twice about replacing Windows 7 with Linux.

I would take a Mac primarily for artsy applications and usage. But I don't have $1,000 just laying around.
 

HVanquish

Member
I've never owned a mac, but both my brother and my mom have. I think mac is better and that most opinions in this thread will be biased towards non-macs because of price and power. Gamers and other people that use this forum probably look at computers for how much power they can get for as little money as possible, which macs aren't good for. Non gamers may just want: An awesome trackpad, and awesome battery life, a quiet computer, a nice looking computer, and clean system, a warranty you don't have to buy, easy customization, and ways to easily navigate through a computer without being a pro. That's probably what people aren't taking into account right here. I've helped people on PC that don't even know what the control panel is, but it's super easy on a mac just to change your background because it's right there.
 
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