MJ1284
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I thought someone out there might be pondering on that question, I had my doubts whether I should post this or not (knowing what majority of ppl here think of me nowdays) but then I spotted this message on other thread:
BugsPray has been there since Day 1, he knows what I've become and he still said "your participation would be much appreciated" even after all the negative bitching and complaining.. if he's willing to forgive me then least I can do is tell my side of the story and hopefully clear some air here.
I've explained many times why I'm not playing Legions anymore (TL;DR: It's not fun to play anymore IMO), I've also shared my thoughts on Pubs and PUGs so I won't delve too deep in those.
The main reason I got so frustrated with the whole game was partially the video making hobby, it took its toll and I was ultimately unsatisfied with the results: No improvement on number of players and Pubs stayed the same. Relatively small number of views (well, besides that one video that got 13+k views before I deleted it) didn't matter that much, but knowing it's always the exact same bunch that keeps coming here bothered me... after all, I was seriously trying to entice new players to try Legions, some probably did but most of them left soon after realizing Pubs aren't really entertaining for them.
Other thing that started bothering me was both love and hate I got from the videos: Some people saw it fit to start pestering me "yo MJ whens next vid coming?" while some other people saw it fit to start spamming "you aint so gud u noob!!!". Video making was just a pastime hobby for me but now I started feeling pressured into making more and more videos and into dealing with trolls & overanxious fanboys which started to irritate me.
So the cycle went on and on, I uploaded a new video -> some people started asking new video & some people bashed my "voluntary promoting work" with passion -> every video was getting 300-500 views, no new players nor better Pubs. I felt like I was merely fighting windmills as long time vets treated Pubs like *chocolate cookies* (sorry for being blunt) and constantly repeated "play PUGs if you want good games" while also complaining "shame there's so few players, can't have PUGs like this", which is ironic considering it's common sense that no influx of players means number of players can only go down over time. I think it was around here I threw my hands up in the air and thought to myself "Well *dance* it, I'm done promoting this game long as majority treats Pubs like an unwanted bastard child" and gave up on playing seriously.
Most of you are probably rolling their eyes "that's no reason to act like total *bum*hole", just try to put yourselves in my position: You're doing something you really like, you think it's for the good of community so you'll keep doing it even if it occasionally drains you... only to realize later on that all your work has been futile, one person can't make a difference if more than half the community won't bother doing anything to back you up.
I'm not asking you to forgive me, nor am I asking you to play less seriously if there are rookies on Pub server... but, if you actually want more people to pick up the game, stop treating Pubs like crap: The community is small as it is, stacking teams intentionally just because "Pubs suck, go to PUGs if you got a problem with that!", that's the attitude that WILL kill the game for good one day. I'm sorry but you guys REALLY can't be too picky with newcomers, running Team Elite vs Team Newblood constantly will make the new players to move on to other games. Your player base will not increase long as you keep carrying that "Pubs suck, why should I care about balance?" attitude with you.
So there, that's my side of the story. I decided long ago not to play Legions anymore (if you're reading this Jedrek, you can stop pestering me), but after seeing Bugs message I felt obliged to explain my behavior. As for question "Why are you still sticking around then?", believe it or not, I'm sticking around just for the forum. I met some really nice people while I played Legions, I still like the old timers and I like to check up on them every now and then. I personally have nothing against anyone here long as they can tolerate me not playing Legions & my somewhat straightforward way of pointing out flaws Legions had when I played it.
That's all I wanted to say, let the flaming ensue!
Regards,
your old non-trollish side of MJ you used to know long ago
I'm sorry to hear your experience with Legions was less than desirable. I for one enjoyed watching your movies, and so did Munge, and I'm sure most of the community enjoyed them as well. I never really got to play with you because you were Euro - sad.
We've never banned anyone for having a respectfully negative (and some of the stuff you said is realistic) view of Legions, much less deleted their profile or posts.
A note on devs: I'm sure it's been overstated, but the devs are all volunteers, and I can tell you they've been working their asses off in their free time for 1.40 and will be working for many months on "what is to come next." Granted, that does mean updates are less frequent than with a AAA title or other indie games, but if you look at the game over time, updates have been fairly regular even if they are far apart.
The community is certainly dwindling nowadays, but whatever remains is going to be critical to the success of the grass-roots marketing push we're planning for the New Legions. In fact, MJ, I think your participation would be much appreciated if you're interestd. Shoot me a PM if you are.
BugsPray has been there since Day 1, he knows what I've become and he still said "your participation would be much appreciated" even after all the negative bitching and complaining.. if he's willing to forgive me then least I can do is tell my side of the story and hopefully clear some air here.
I've explained many times why I'm not playing Legions anymore (TL;DR: It's not fun to play anymore IMO), I've also shared my thoughts on Pubs and PUGs so I won't delve too deep in those.
The main reason I got so frustrated with the whole game was partially the video making hobby, it took its toll and I was ultimately unsatisfied with the results: No improvement on number of players and Pubs stayed the same. Relatively small number of views (well, besides that one video that got 13+k views before I deleted it) didn't matter that much, but knowing it's always the exact same bunch that keeps coming here bothered me... after all, I was seriously trying to entice new players to try Legions, some probably did but most of them left soon after realizing Pubs aren't really entertaining for them.
Other thing that started bothering me was both love and hate I got from the videos: Some people saw it fit to start pestering me "yo MJ whens next vid coming?" while some other people saw it fit to start spamming "you aint so gud u noob!!!". Video making was just a pastime hobby for me but now I started feeling pressured into making more and more videos and into dealing with trolls & overanxious fanboys which started to irritate me.
So the cycle went on and on, I uploaded a new video -> some people started asking new video & some people bashed my "voluntary promoting work" with passion -> every video was getting 300-500 views, no new players nor better Pubs. I felt like I was merely fighting windmills as long time vets treated Pubs like *chocolate cookies* (sorry for being blunt) and constantly repeated "play PUGs if you want good games" while also complaining "shame there's so few players, can't have PUGs like this", which is ironic considering it's common sense that no influx of players means number of players can only go down over time. I think it was around here I threw my hands up in the air and thought to myself "Well *dance* it, I'm done promoting this game long as majority treats Pubs like an unwanted bastard child" and gave up on playing seriously.
Most of you are probably rolling their eyes "that's no reason to act like total *bum*hole", just try to put yourselves in my position: You're doing something you really like, you think it's for the good of community so you'll keep doing it even if it occasionally drains you... only to realize later on that all your work has been futile, one person can't make a difference if more than half the community won't bother doing anything to back you up.
I'm not asking you to forgive me, nor am I asking you to play less seriously if there are rookies on Pub server... but, if you actually want more people to pick up the game, stop treating Pubs like crap: The community is small as it is, stacking teams intentionally just because "Pubs suck, go to PUGs if you got a problem with that!", that's the attitude that WILL kill the game for good one day. I'm sorry but you guys REALLY can't be too picky with newcomers, running Team Elite vs Team Newblood constantly will make the new players to move on to other games. Your player base will not increase long as you keep carrying that "Pubs suck, why should I care about balance?" attitude with you.
So there, that's my side of the story. I decided long ago not to play Legions anymore (if you're reading this Jedrek, you can stop pestering me), but after seeing Bugs message I felt obliged to explain my behavior. As for question "Why are you still sticking around then?", believe it or not, I'm sticking around just for the forum. I met some really nice people while I played Legions, I still like the old timers and I like to check up on them every now and then. I personally have nothing against anyone here long as they can tolerate me not playing Legions & my somewhat straightforward way of pointing out flaws Legions had when I played it.
That's all I wanted to say, let the flaming ensue!
Regards,
your old non-trollish side of MJ you used to know long ago
But MJ, that's no reason to act like total *bum*hole!
